[tur-users] Ion3

[Roman Kyrylych]

2007/4/30, Tuomo Valkonen <tuomov at iki.fi>:
> On 2007-04-30, David Rosenstrauch <darose at darose.net> wrote:
> > Incorrect.  These packages existed on the AUR, the ArchLinux
> > User-community Repository.  They were not part of the any of the
> > officially distributed Arch repositories.  So no; no user of Arch would
> > possibly make the mistake of thinking that ion packages in the AUR were
> > "the standard Ion3".
>
> Hahah. You trust users too much. And it doesn't matter whether they
> are "officially distributed": they're still distributed by ArchLinux
> in a very accessible form, without any noticeable disclaimers or
> warnings.

A notice in Description field would be enought.
But anyway all ion packages are removed from AUR already.

>
> > as you can see, is really basically just a community bulletin
> > board for PKGBUILDs - it's not a software repository, and not an
> > "official" part of the Arch Linux distribution.
>
> Doesn't look like that to me. It's not a random mess of a bulletin
> board, but a very polished listing of software, indistinguishable
> from an officially maintained repository.

It is impossible to install any package from Unsupported "repo" with
any official Arch tool. But I guess that's not sufficient for you too.

> > So in short, neither the Arch Linux developers or TU's are responsible
> > for the PKGBUILDs you are referring to.  If you had a problem with that
> > PKGBUILD, you should have sent an email to the user who put it there.
> > If you failed to get a response, or the user refused, then you should
> > have emailed this TUR list
>
> I asked the "user" in the comments to rename the packages. He refused,
> and pointed me here.
>
> > And a few nicely worded emails would have gotten the PKGBUILD in
> > question taken down just as quickly - if not more so - than flames.
>
> The first email was very nicely worded. The result was the herd
> crying about taking a toy away from them. The herd thinks that
> when you give them the little finger (the code), they can rip
> your whole hand (the name) apart too. Well, I won't be giving
> them any more little fingers either; all the recent experience
> and degradation of free software in general, has proved them
> undeserving of that.

I strongly suggest you to apologise to all users that you call herd there.
Note that you called the herd also users of your software.
Your behaviour are inacceptable.
I think you noticed that noone has called you asshole yet.

>
> > There's no way I'll use or recommend software from someone with an
> > attitude like yours.
>
> There's no way I'll recommend  FOSS to anyone with an attitude like
> that of the FOSS herd, and I am increasingly less likely to use it
> either.

There's no way to recomment Ion3 to anyone with an attitude like that
of its maintainer.

I skip all other words I want to say and save my nerves.... :-)

-- 
Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)